Pantry Planning Notes
How to size, lay out and build storage that keeps up with a Scottsdale household.
Planning a Walk-in or Butler's Pantry in a Scottsdale Home
People usually call us about a pantry after one specific moment. The groceries come in, there is nowhere to put them, and a row of cereal boxes ends up on top of the refrigerator again. Or the holiday dinner happens and every flat surface in the kitchen is covered by the second hour.
Both of those are storage problems, and they have different answers. This is how we think through a pantry project with a homeowner, in roughly the order we do it on the first visit.
Start With an Inventory, Not a Floor Plan
Before anyone draws a pantry, empty the one you have. Pull everything out of the pantry closet and the upper cabinets and put it on the dining table in groups: cans and jars, boxes and bags, baking supplies, small appliances, serving pieces, cleaning products, bulk overflow.
This takes an hour and it answers most of the design questions. A household with two long tables of canned goods and a stack of bulk bags from a warehouse store needs different shelving than a couple who shops twice a week and owns an espresso machine, a stand mixer and a slow cooker. The first needs volume and shallow shelves. The second needs an appliance counter with outlets.
It also tells you honestly whether you need construction. Plenty of pantries that feel full are half occupied by expired spices, duplicate baking soda and a food processor nobody has used since it came out of the box. After a cull, some people find that roll-out shelves and a better organized closet solve everything, and that costs a small fraction of a remodel.
Walk-in, Butler’s, or Both
The two names get used loosely, so it helps to define them.
A walk-in pantry is storage you step into. It is a small room, usually with a door, shelving on two or three walls, and sometimes a short counter for an appliance or two. Its job is holding things.
A butler’s pantry is a working passage, usually between the kitchen and the dining or entertaining area. It has base cabinets with a counter, uppers or open shelves, and often a bar sink, an ice maker, a beverage refrigerator or a coffee station. Its job is staging and cleanup. Food gets plated there, drinks get poured there, and the dirty glasses wait there so the main kitchen stays clean while guests are around.
Some houses need only one. A family that cooks every night and entertains rarely usually gets far more out of a walk-in. A household that hosts often, or cooks in a kitchen that opens onto the living room, gets more out of a butler’s pantry, because it moves the mess out of sight. In the larger custom kitchens in DC Ranch, Desert Mountain and around Pinnacle Peak, we often see room for both, with the walk-in opening off the butler’s pantry rather than off the main kitchen.
Where the Space Comes From in Scottsdale Houses
The house type decides where a new pantry can go, and Scottsdale has a wide range of them.
Ranch houses in south Scottsdale. Homes from the 1960s and 1970s usually have a single reach-in pantry closet about 24 inches deep, with fixed shelves. The kitchen often backs onto a hall closet, a laundry area or a carport wall. Joining the reach-in to an adjacent closet is the most common way to make a walk-in, and on a single story house with a simple roof, many interior walls are not carrying much load. That is not an assumption we make, though. If there is any doubt, an engineer looks at the framing before anything gets cut.
McCormick Ranch, Scottsdale Ranch and Gainey Ranch. Houses in these planned communities from the 1970s through the 1990s often put a builder pantry next to the refrigerator and a laundry room just behind it. Borrowing two or three feet from a generous laundry room, or moving the laundry to the garage where the layout allows, frees up a real walk-in. Garage moves bring their own issue, covered below.
Custom homes in north Scottsdale. Kitchens are already large, so the question is less about finding space and more about how it is used. A butler’s pantry between the kitchen and dining room, or a scullery style back kitchen with a second dishwasher, is the usual project.
Santa Fe and territorial style homes. Thick stucco walls and deep window openings can make interior space tighter than the footprint suggests. A pantry built into the depth of a thick interior wall, or a tall cabinet pantry, is sometimes the better answer than framing a new room.
Old Town condos and lofts. A walk-in is rarely possible. Tall pull-out pantry cabinets and full height storage along one wall are the realistic options, and building rules on alterations usually apply.
Many master planned communities run HOA design review for exterior changes. A pantry that stays entirely inside the house usually does not touch that process, but anything that changes a window, a wall facing the street or the roofline does, so check before you plan a bump-out.
The Dimensions That Make a Pantry Work
A pantry can be a lovely room and still frustrating to use. These are the numbers we check.
Shelf depth. Shallow wins more often than people expect. Cans, jars and spices belong on shelves around 12 inches deep, one or two items deep, so nothing is ever hidden. Boxes and bags want 14 to 16 inches. Small appliances and bulk items want 18 to 20. We usually mix depths, with shallow shelves at eye level and deeper ones below.
Shelf spacing. Adjustable shelving is worth it on at least one wall, because what you store changes. Fixed shelves are stronger and cleaner looking, so we often put fixed shelves where the heavy items live and adjustable ones elsewhere.
Aisle width. Plan on 36 to 42 inches of clear floor between facing shelves, enough to turn around with a grocery bag and bend to a low shelf. Below that, a walk-in becomes a squeeze.
Counter height. An appliance counter in a pantry at standard 36 inch height lets you actually use the mixer or coffee machine where it lives. Put outlets above it.
Door type. A swinging door blocks shelves on the inside. Pocket doors and sliding doors free that wall, but a pocket door needs a wall cavity with no pipes, wires or structure, which we confirm with a look inside the wall before promising one.
Lighting. A single ceiling fixture puts the shelves in your own shadow. Lighting along the shelf fronts, or a fixture on each side, fixes that. A door or motion switch means the light is on when your hands are full.
Heat, Dust and Hard Water
The desert changes a few decisions.
Heat is the big one. Scottsdale summers bring stretches of afternoons above 110 degrees. A pantry sharing a wall with an uninsulated garage, or on a west facing exterior wall, can run far warmer than the kitchen. Oils go rancid faster, nuts and whole grain flour spoil sooner, and chocolate and coffee suffer. If the pantry has to go on a warm wall, we insulate that wall properly and make sure the pantry shares air with the conditioned part of the house. A pantry that is closed up with no air exchange is the worst of both.
That is also why moving laundry to the garage to free up pantry space needs care. The laundry can move, but the wall between the garage and the new pantry now matters more.
Dust comes with the monsoon. Open shelves are convenient, and they collect a fine film after every storm. For items used weekly, open is fine. For anything kept longer, closed cabinets, lidded bins or a pantry with a door that seals reasonably well saves a lot of wiping. Keep the lowest shelf a few inches off the floor so it can be cleaned under.
Hard water targets the butler’s pantry. Municipal water here is very hard, and a bar sink faucet, ice maker line and beverage refrigerator dispenser scale up quickly. Plan an accessible shutoff valve and room under the sink for a filter housing you can reach to change. Braided supply lines and quality shutoffs are cheap insurance against the slow leak that ruins a sink base cabinet.
Wiring, Plumbing and Permits
Shelving and cabinets inside an existing room do not usually involve inspectors. The work that does is predictable.
Moving or removing a wall generally needs a permit, and a wall carrying roof or ceiling load needs an engineer to size a beam before it is opened. Adding a circuit, which a beverage refrigerator, an ice maker or a bank of countertop appliances often calls for, generally needs a permit and an inspection. Outlets serving a counter are expected to have GFCI protection, and the inspector will check it. Running water and a drain to a new bar sink needs a permit and a rough plumbing inspection before the wall is closed.
The City of Scottsdale handles these for homes in the city. We confirm what your specific scope needs rather than guessing, submit the plans, and schedule the inspections. Do not let anyone tell you a wall can come down without looking at what sits on top of it.
What the Job Looks Like, Start to Finish
A cabinet retrofit with roll-outs and drawers is often done in a day or two, and the kitchen stays in use the whole time.
A walk-in pantry made by joining two closets usually follows this order: demolition of the shared wall and old shelving, any framing or header work, electrical rough-in for lights and outlets, inspection if permitted, drywall, texture and paint, then shelving, lighting and the door. Two to four weeks is typical, with a few days of dust and noise and the kitchen still usable.
A butler’s pantry is a small kitchen and follows the full sequence: demolition, rough plumbing and electrical, inspection, drywall, cabinets, counter template, counter fabrication and installation, then the sink, faucet, appliances and trim. The construction itself is not long. The wait is on cabinets, which often take several weeks to arrive, and on the counter, which cannot be templated until the cabinets are set. Six to ten weeks from demolition to finish is a fair expectation.
When Not to Build a Pantry
Sometimes the right advice is to not spend the money.
If the kitchen layout itself is the problem, with no drawers near the range, no landing space beside the refrigerator, or an aisle too narrow for two people, a pantry will not fix the daily frustration. That is a kitchen layout project.
If the existing reach-in pantry has fixed 24 inch shelves, try replacing them with roll-out shelves before you tear out a wall. That single change turns a deep dark closet into something you can see into.
And if the only place a walk-in can go is the garage wall that hits 100 degrees on the other side all summer, think carefully. A tall cabinet pantry on an interior wall inside the kitchen may store less, but what it stores will keep.
Getting Started
Do the inventory first. Take photos of the closet or wall you have in mind, and note what is on the other side of it. Then call us at (480) 499-6221. We will come out, measure, open the walls up in our heads with you, and write a scope with the options priced side by side, including the cheaper ones.